> America is the market hunters that drove passenger pigeons extinct
You sure about that?
I mean, it's a shibboleth I myself mouthed countless times (as someone whose people are birds).
But I also find it noteworthy that, for instance, the recorded period of severe downturn of passenger pigeon populations was the 1870s to 1890s.
That overlays several larger cycles, including the so-called "Kondratieff wave" and largely depressed solar activity in that time (right around Solar Cycle 12).
No argument here that overhunting likely played some role in the population crash. But I'd caution you that attributing everything to human intervention/sin is also a form of targeted, unthinking overpredation.
Remember, Europeans came to N. America out of the Dalton and Maunder climate/solar minimums...and the severe Oort, Wolf, and Sporer minimums were survived by their ancestors.
The Maunder was the "Little Ice Age" that brought vast death and suffering to Europe.
Meanwhile for two millennia both rural and town people experienced forced concentration of populations into larger and larger, centrally controlled urban centers, in the Mesopotamian/Sumerian/Babylonian model imported from West Asia.
Now imagine what a place of endless possibility the American continent seemed to their descendants, free for the first time in many centuries from the lugals and priests and temple accountants.
We should be learning from this rather than endlessly flogging ancestors for their sins.
There's a lesson for us too: with climate variability externally controlled by the sun's energetic patterns, we humans' adaptation patterns need to evolve to include staying calm, shedding previous or ancestral trauma, and fitting our instincts into a more ecological and evolutionary view. Even as we learn more and more about the challenges the planet will present us, though we never quite know when, or how much, or of what sort those will be.
We know what the cities will do. We've been seeing it for the entire period of the Sumerian Swindle.
> America is the market hunters that drove passenger pigeons extinct
You sure about that?
I mean, it's a shibboleth I myself mouthed countless times (as someone whose people are birds).
But I also find it noteworthy that, for instance, the recorded period of severe downturn of passenger pigeon populations was the 1870s to 1890s.
That overlays several larger cycles, including the so-called "Kondratieff wave" and largely depressed solar activity in that time (right around Solar Cycle 12).
No argument here that overhunting likely played some role in the population crash. But I'd caution you that attributing everything to human intervention/sin is also a form of targeted, unthinking overpredation.
Remember, Europeans came to N. America out of the Dalton and Maunder climate/solar minimums...and the severe Oort, Wolf, and Sporer minimums were survived by their ancestors.
The Maunder was the "Little Ice Age" that brought vast death and suffering to Europe.
Meanwhile for two millennia both rural and town people experienced forced concentration of populations into larger and larger, centrally controlled urban centers, in the Mesopotamian/Sumerian/Babylonian model imported from West Asia.
Now imagine what a place of endless possibility the American continent seemed to their descendants, free for the first time in many centuries from the lugals and priests and temple accountants.
We should be learning from this rather than endlessly flogging ancestors for their sins.
There's a lesson for us too: with climate variability externally controlled by the sun's energetic patterns, we humans' adaptation patterns need to evolve to include staying calm, shedding previous or ancestral trauma, and fitting our instincts into a more ecological and evolutionary view. Even as we learn more and more about the challenges the planet will present us, though we never quite know when, or how much, or of what sort those will be.
We know what the cities will do. We've been seeing it for the entire period of the Sumerian Swindle.